Afghan men throw acid into girls’ faces ‘for going to school’
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Attackers on a motorbike threw acid in the faces of three teenage girls on their way to school in Afghanistan’s western Herat province on Saturday, an official told CNN.
The girls, age 16 to 18, are students at one of the biggest girls’ schools in Herat city, the provincial capital, said Aziz-ul-Rahman Sarwary, head of the education department for the province.
All three girls were admitted to Noor hospital in Herat city before their parents took them elsewhere, said hospital head Jamal Abdul Naser Akhundzada.
Two of the girls were in critical condition after the acid was thrown in their faces, he said.
Akhundzada quoted the girls as saying that their assailants were two men on a motorbike.
“This is the punishment for going to school,” the men told the girls after pouring the acid on them, according to Akhundzada.
Abdul Rauf Ahmadi, a spokesman for the provincial police chief, said police were working very hard to find the attackers.
Intelligence is a survival trait. For a human to despise the attempt to understand the natural world is like a bear tearing out it’s own claws or a bird ripping off it’s own wings. That’s not something that happens all by itself. It takes a great deal of effort over a great deal of time to produce such a self-destructive ideology.
I feel like you’re being intentionally obtuse here.
Education benefits everybody, but at the same time, if you want to maintain a subservient lower class (in this case, women), then you can do so by limiting their exposure to material that would mentally empower them or give them increased ability to question.
Meanwhile, men (and society, at a non-individual level) continue to reap the benefits of education, so it’s not like they’re actively avoiding the benefits of education, they’re just keeping it for themselves so that they can keep women subjugated.
Meanwhile, men (and society, at a non-individual level) continue to reap the benefits of education
I think it’s safe to assume the assholes that did this weren’t privvy to any kind of education.
Not really. Many horrible people are extremely well educated.
“Any kind of education” is subjective. That society as a whole has been indoctrinated such that men are superior to women, or that women are inferior to men. That indoctrination, as I choose to describe it, is a form of education. It’s education that is not the same as organized education as most of us know it. It’s a form of education the same way that children are taught religion, family relations, etc.
To go a little further into the issue, this ‘education’ is the result of the way that region and Islam was transformed starting in the 70s (-ish). Someone else should be able to and may explain that better than I ever could, but essentially the changes over the past 40-50 years in the governments of that region and the extremist takeover of Islam in many parts of that region have led to this situation. The changes are also partially due to US and other nations’ interference in the area during those years.
My guess is that they’re very familiar with one particular book, and not as well versed in all the others.
I don’t know why you think that. Underestimating your enemy is the stupidest thing you can do. They probably haven’t taken a physics or calculus class but they know how to fire a mortar on your position. They have their education for the world they live in.
That is the mentality of Extremists.
Look at what Nazis did during world war 2, that was even worse then what ISIS did.
It is just that, that in Regions of conflict (and the whole middle east is in conflict for a long, long time) there are more extremists and people are ready to be more cruel. In the middle east there are a lot of Muslims and powerful people use this to control the masses, thus there are a lot of Muslim extremists. In Germany Hitler used Nacionalism to control the masses, thus there were a lot of far right extremists. During the medieval times the European people used Christianity, thus there were a lot of christian extremists (crusades for example).
To be fair, ISIS is 20,000 kids with limited resources.
The 3rd Reich had millions of soldiers.
ISIS would be doing much worse things, unbelievably.
I meant about how brutal the people were and not how much they did.
For example they did human experiments, like testing how often you can break a bone on the same spot. So they took patients (some Jews) and broke their bones, then they let it heal and broke the place that just healed and repeated that a lot of times. What was so scary about them is that they were more intelligent then ISIS, so they made a lot of terrible experiments, something that ISIS wouldn’t be able to do. That’s also why I think Nazis were way worse then ISIS, because Nazis weren’t naive, like the Muslim terrorists.
Here’s an idea: how about these men throw acid in their own faces so they can never see these girls go to school?
Na. Rabid dogs. They’ve broken the social contact that keeps society together. They’ve escalated to significantly damaging, irreversible, life changing/ending physical violence merely because someone was doing something they didn’t agree with. Put them down dispassionately so they can never hurt anyone else.
No.
Never say that.
The main difference between the perpetuation of violence and finally ending the cycle is realizing that everyone in the cycle of violence thinks they are doing the right thing.
It’s hard to comprehend how they can think this to be right. You have to look at culture, the situation, and the persons upbringing. Only once you realize how someone could have this view, only once you understand and sympathize with them as people who legitimately want to be good, no matter how far astray they might be. Only then is it clear how to help.
No matter how right you think you are to kill them, you aren’t, not even the most vile of individuals to ever live can be denied sympathy or human decency, the moment you bend on that you have merely stepped into the cycle of violence yourself.
…failure to murder someone after their first offence makes you culpable for their subsequent behaviour. Right.
I know it’s a complicated situation and it’s tempting to take the Gordian Knot solution and put them all to the sword, Mr. The Barbarian.
But the fact is that violence is the simple solution and if we all take it then the world doesn’t become a fairer and kinder place, it becomes a fucking massacre and a return to the stone age.
Understanding is the key to harmony, because you can’t have harmony when everyone is screaming.
Screw harmony. The whole point of a criminal justice system is to rehabilitate offenders so they never offend again. If an offender can’t be reasonably rehabilitated, they need to be permanently removed from society. Tell me, is it more economical to have someone locked up for 30 years covering all expenses such as food, medicine, security, rooming… or buying a loaded gun. Both solutions remove a person from society permanently and most Batman villains are at the point where they can’t be rehabilitated.
There are people beyond reasoning, permanently so. It’s like putting down a rabid animal who’s too far gone.
That’s why the first guy itt said dispassionately. We don’t have to make them suffer, but filling a large tent of them with nitrogen so they immediately, painlessly go out would work quite well.
As I said to the other guy; if you think they can be changed with discussion, go do it yourself. No excuses.
And once they are put down, their kids will grow up to learn that the big powerful people killed their father; regardless of reasons, they will then grow up to hate us and join another combat/violent group, and we’ll have the same problem over and over and over again. You want to keep the cycle going, just be ready to accept that it’s a real cycle and won’t ever stop.
We can’t attack these people and expect them (many of whom would die for a caused they believe in) to not put up an ongoing fight.
If we actually care about life and a diverse world, that means accepting that they have such a worldview. Of course we’ll work to change it, encourage and promote harmony to let the world live in peace, but we won’t get there by continuing to just throw punches and say “they started it”.
Don’t invent scenarios as reality. For the ones that have young kids, they can be brought elsewhere. The ones old enough to fight can be dealt with as their fathers were.
My worldview is absolutely intolerant of any worldview that promotes throwing acid on a child for daring to seek an education. “Intolerance” isn’t always a terrible thing.
As I said above, that doesn’t mean I want to kill them, nor that I’m blind to the very real problem you raise about perpetuating a cycle – and I’m certainly open to new solutions – but it does mean that twiddling my thumbs and saying “guess that’s just their worldview, I’d better respect it!” isn’t an option.
And that’s exactly what these kids here in the comments fail to realize. These Afghani barbarians also used violence as their first, and easiest solution…
Sometimes violence is necessary and the best solution. In a case like this where two men are willing to harm and cause possible disabilities(seeing) just because someone goes against what they believe, its some bs.
And after seeing what the joker did and most of the other villains in batman he should have killed them or they should have gotten the death penalty